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時間: Tue Jun 26 02:17:41 2012
NBA 史上五大選秀錯誤 <馬後炮排行榜>
榮譽榜
1981年,小牛用狀元籤選了Mark Aguirre,讓Isiah Thomas淪為榜眼。
2008年,灰狼用榜眼選了O.J. Mayo,卻沒選Russell Westbrook(第四順位),或是Kevin
Love (第五順位)。
2001年,巫師用狀元籤選了Kwame Brown,錯過了Tyson Chandler(榜眼)、Pau Gasol(探花
)。
1998年,快艇用狀元籤選了Michael Olowokandi,錯過Mike Bibby(榜眼),Antawn
Jamison(第四順位),還有Vince Carter(第五順位)。
1985年,國王在第六順位選了Joe Kleine,錯過了Chris Mullin (第七順位)與Detlef
Schrempf(第八順位),以及Charles Oakley(第九順位)。
1997年,Tracy McGrady(第九順位)才被暴龍選走,在他之前灰熊選了Antonio Daniels(第
四順位),金塊選Tony Battie(第五順位),賽爾蒂克選Ron Mercer(第六順位),籃網選Tim
Thomas(第七順位),勇士選Adonal Foyle(第八順位)。
1991年,國王在探花位選Billy Owens,而非Dikembe Mutombo(第四順位)。
1987年,籃網用探花選了Dennis Hopson,卻沒選Scottie Pippen(第五順位),或是Kevin
Johnson(第七順位),此外Reggie Miller、Mark Jackson、Horace Grant也沒在前兩位被
選走。
1983年,堪薩斯在第13位順位挑選了Ennis Whatley,而非Clyde Drexler。
2009年,灰熊用榜眼籤選中Hasheem Thabeet,而非James Harden(探花)與Ricky Rubio(第
五順位)。
1978年,有五支球隊沒選Larry Bird,分別為拓荒長用狀元籤選Mychal Thompson,堪薩斯
用榜眼選Phil Ford,印第安納用探花選Rick Robey,尼克選Michael Ray Richarson(第四
順位),勇士選Purvis Short(第五順位),但該年選秀為變數為Larry Bird不確定是否該棄
學投入NBA。
五大選秀錯誤:
No.5— 2005年,老鷹用榜眼籤選Marvin Williams,而非探花Deron Williams,與Chris
Paul(第四順位)。
No.4—2007年,拓荒者用狀元籤選Greg Oden,而非榜眼Kevin Durant。
No.3—1996年,有12支球隊有眼不識老大。
No.2—2003年,底特律用榜眼籤選Darko Milicic,而非探花Carmelo Anthony,或Chris
Bosh(第四順位),以及Dwyane Wade(第五順位)。
No.1—1984年,某隊選了Sam Bowie,而非選那個人。
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原文:Top 5 NBA Draft Mistakes
By Joel Brigham http://www.hoopsworld.com/top-5-nba-draft-mistakes (原文)
There is a certain level of buzz coming out of Charlotte right now that the
Bobcats might be considering selecting Harrison Barnes with the second
overall pick in next Thursday’s draft, partly because he’s a top-five
talent, but mostly because he’s marketable as an in-state college star that
could, in theory, help to rejuvenate a franchise.
That, of course, would be an egregious mistake for the Bobcats from a
basketball standpoint, particularly because Thomas Robinson looks like the
biggest potential star available to them at #2, and even Michael
Kidd-Gilchrist and Bradley Beal appear primed for a higher level of NBA
stardom than Barnes.
In any event, I saw Barnes listed at #2 in a mock draft online, and all I
could think was, “Man, that just isn’t the right choice.” From there, I
naturally started thinking about some of the other poor drafting decisions in
league history, and that’s where the idea for this Top 5 was birthed. The
following list examines the most notorious incidents of passing up on future
superstars for players who just never lived up to their draft positions.
For the purpose of this list, I’d like to note that I only listed players
who might have realistically been selected in that position instead of the
guy who actually got picked. For example, if Jared Sullinger ends up an
All-Star six years from now and Harrison Barnes flames out in Charlotte, I won
’t be complaining that the Bobcats didn’t take Sullinger, because he was
never in the conversation. If Robinson or Beal or Kidd-Gilchrist blow up and
Barnes busts, however, that’s a different story.
All that said, here they are, in descending order—the five biggest draft
mistakes in NBA history:
Honorable Mention:
In 1981, Dallas selects Mark Aguirre (#1) over Isiah Thomas (#2) – The funny
thing here is that these two ended up teammates just in time to win two
championships together in the late ‘80s, but even though Aguirre was a
three-time All-Star, he was no Isiah Thomas. The Mavericks could’ve built a
franchise around him; they obviously couldn’t with Aguirre.
In 2008, Minnesota selects O.J. Mayo (#3, traded to Memphis) over Russell
Westbrook (#4) and Kevin Love (#5) – Not completely unforgiveable because
Mayo is no slouch. But he’s also nowhere near the superstar Westbrook and
Love have become so quickly in their own careers.
In 2001, Washington selects Kwame Brown (#1) over Tyson Chandler (#2) and Pau
Gasol (#3) – It took Tyson Chandler a while to come into his own as a pro,
so it’s not like there were even immediate NBA results to show he was the
better pick. Gasol, however, was a good pro right away. That obviously would’
ve been the smarter pick for Michael Jordan and the Wizards.
In 1998, L.A. Clippers select Michael Olowokandi (#1) over Mike Bibby (#2),
Antawn Jamison (#4), and Vince Carter (#5) – At the time, Bibby was probably
the only guy who could’ve seriously warranted the #1 pick, but considering
what a bust the Kandi-Man was, Bibby would’ve easily been a more helpful
selection for the Clippers.
In 1985, Sacramento selects Joe Kleine (#6) over Chris Mullin (#7), Detlef
Schrempf (#8), and Charles Oakley (#9) – Unlike those situations where
several teams pass up on one good player, here we have an instance of several
teams getting good players after a painfully average one was selected. Mullin
could’ve easily been a King, but Schrempf or Oakley wouldn’t have been so
bad, either.
In 1997, five teams pick players before Toronto selected Tracy McGrady (#9),
including Antonio Daniels (Vancouver, #4), Tony Battie (Denver, #5), Ron
Mercer (Boston, #6), Tim Thomas (New Jersey, #7), and Adonal Foyle (Golden
State, #8) – McGrady showed enough promise leading up to the draft to
warrant a higher pick than #9, and clearly several teams regretted not taking
the gamble on the prep star.
In 1991, Sacramento selects Billy Owens (#3) over Dikembe Mutombo (#4) – One
of the greatest defensive players in league history, or a guy who averaged
11.7 points and 6.7 rebounds for his career? Seems like an obvious choice in
retrospect, but that’s sort of the theme with this article, isn’t it?
In 1987, New Jersey selects Dennis Hopson (#3) over Scottie Pippen (#5) and
Kevin Johnson (#7) – Hopson averaged 29 points as a senior at Ohio State,
but Pippen obviously proved to be a much better NBA player. Not that they
would’ve been selected third, but Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson and Horace
Grant were all available for the third pick in that draft, as well.
In 1983, Kansas City selects Ennis Whatley (#13) over Clyde Drexler (#14) –
The Kings must have thought they were doing the right thing taking Whatley
at #13, but instead of getting a Hall of Famer in Drexler, they ended up with
a journeyman who played for seven different teams (and the Kings were never
one of them, by the way). Wheatley even spent some of his “prime” years
playing in the Philippines. That late in the draft, it’s obviously going to
be hit or miss, but that’s a miss that stings pretty badly.
In 2009, Memphis selects Hasheem Thabeet (#2) over James Harden (#3) and
Ricky Rubio (#5) – Until a few weeks before the draft, Rubio had been
projected as the #2 pick for almost an entire year. He didn’t want to play
in Memphis, but Memphis should have drafted him anyway. Harden, of course,
has turned out to be the best player of the three, even though he never
really was much of a consideration for the second pick.
In 1978, five teams pass on Larry Bird (#6), including Portland (Mychal
Thompson, #1), Kansas City (Phil Ford, #2), Indiana (Rick Robey, #3), New
York (Michael Ray Richarson, #4), and Golden State (Purvis Short, #5) – Of
all these, Thompson had the most respectable career other than Bird, but
nobody else taken before Larry Legend came anywhere near the Hall of Fame
career he put together. Indiana at #3, for example, would’ve seemed like an
ideal landing spot for the Indiana boy, but the fact that no one knew whether
or not Bird would play his senior season turned a few teams off. Turns out he
took Indiana State to the NCAA Championship in1979, signed with Boston
shortly thereafter and the rest is history.
THE TOP FIVE:
#5 – In 2005, Atlanta selects Marvin Williams (#2) over Deron Williams (#3)
and Chris Paul (#4) – This one still stings Hawks fans, particularly because
Atlanta made this pick at the time with a gaping hole at point guard. Taking
Paul seemed like a no-brainer then, and it’s even more of one now. Williams
obviously would’ve been a better pick, as well, but just taking any point
guard would’ve been the practical decision. Instead, they took the kid who
didn’t even start for his college team, and Marvin has been average at best.
#4 – In 2007, Portland selects Greg Oden (#1) over Kevin Durant (#2) –
Durant is one of the two best players in the league right now at 23 years
old, and Oden is not only not on an NBA roster at the moment, but he hasn’t
played a single game since 2009. Portland never really wavered on who they’d
take with that #1 pick, but the media sure debated it in the weeks leading up
to the draft. Turns out all those folks who said they should’ve taken Durant
were right.
#3 – In 1996, twelve teams pass on Kobe Bryant (Charlotte, #13), including
Cleveland (Vitaly Potapenko at #12), Golden State (Todd Fuller at #11), and
perhaps most notably, New Jersey (Kerry Kittles, #8) – It’s easy to look at
the two picks before Kobe was finally selected and shake your head, but it’s
that Kittles pick at #8 that hurts the most because John Calipari, head coach
of the Nets at the time, really did want to take Bryant with that eighth
pick. Arn Tellum, Kobe’s agent, reportedly told Coach Cal that Kobe would
never play in Jersey, that he’d do pro ball in Italy if the Nets drafted
him. So he was scared into passing up on one of the ten best NBA players of
all time for the guy who wore one sock up and one sock down at Villanova. It
doesn’t seem fair, does it?
#2 – In 2003, Detroit selects Darko Milicic (#2) over Carmelo Anthony (#3),
Chris Bosh (#4), and Dwyane Wade (#5) – I want to start this by saying that
Bosh and Wade were never serious considerations to be selected with the
second overall pick, but they still get to be mentioned here because picks
3-5 ended up being so much better than Milicic that it’s comical. Anthony
was the second-best prospect in ‘03, but Detroit talked themselves out of it
because Tayshaun Prince had come on so strong early in his career. They didn’
t want to take another small forward, so they went big. Going big, in this
case at least, was the wrong choice.
#1 – In 1984, Portland selects Sam Bowie (#2) over Michael Jordan (#3) –
The ’84 Blazers were another team that wanted to go big, particularly
because they’d already gotten Clyde Drexler the year before. You really can’
t blame them for thinking they were set with a guy who would, in fact, become
a Hall of Fame shooting guard someday, but Jordan was so clearly better than
Sam Bowie that you’d have thought they’d find a way to make the two mesh.
At the very least, they could’ve drafted Jordan and perhaps found a trade
for Drexler. However you look at it, Bowie was a huge NBA bust, and MJ was
the greatest player ever to lace up. Draft mistakes don’t get much worse
than that.
While it’s possible that somebody from the 2012 NBA Draft finds himself on a
later iteration of this list, the fact is we just don’t know yet what kind
of pro someone like Harrison Barnes will be. Maybe he’ll end up the best
player of them all, better even than Anthony Davis. That probably won’t be
the case, but the unpredictability of the draft is part of what makes it so
fun. It’s a gamble, and every year teams make picks hoping they bet well.
Or, at the very least, they leave hoping they didn’t blow it.
What other teams and players deserve to be mentioned here? Are there other
stars who got passed up for lesser talents who deserve a shout-out? If so,
add your two cents in the comments section, and stay plugged into HOOPSWORLD
for all the latest draft chatter as we close in on June 28th.
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◆ From: 61.231.245.31
※ 編輯: loed 來自: 61.231.245.31 (06/26 02:19)
→ GianniC :No. 1最經典... 06/26 02:19
推 blur13 :Greg Oden 那年不太算吧 誰知道他這麼玻璃 06/26 02:19
推 savemylife :Oden不是能力不好 只是玻璃了點 06/26 02:20
推 Hsu1025 :阿舅馬後炮排行榜阿 06/26 02:20
→ savemylife :或者不該怪Oden 看看其他傷兵拓荒者要怪的是自己吧 06/26 02:21
推 KillerBest :活塞選小米莉那次不是戰過很多次嗎 那是有時空背景的 06/26 02:21
推 WindowsSlate:Oden不是玻璃了點 是阿拓有詛咒 06/26 02:21
推 bee12 :Sam Bowie一輩子這樣就值得了 06/26 02:21
推 kalfan1 :看了覺得很好笑 06/26 02:21
→ savemylife :KD:謝謝Oden 不然我被阿拓選到搞不好也.... 06/26 02:22
→ white75724 :馬後炮排行榜 06/26 02:23
推 KKyosuke :1983那個怎麼不順便拿前12個來鞭 只鞭#13...XD 06/26 02:23
推 bee12 :1984選Sam Bowie滿合理的 前一年選了Drexler 06/26 02:24
推 chinhan1216 :而非榜眼Carmelo Anthony 榜眼應該改成探花? 06/26 02:25
已修正 感謝!
推 GianniC :96年人才濟濟 Nash都擠到15了 Kobe的順位真的還好 06/26 02:25
→ ko373328 :是阿括不會養人。不是不會選秀 06/26 02:26
推 Conpana :阿拓:幹 是要被鞭幾次 06/26 02:26
推 bee12 :黃金96 06/26 02:26
→ GianniC :我覺得選Oden根本沒錯 只是運氣不好.. 06/26 02:26
推 ppc2t2 :1997那個應該沒那麼糟吧 06/26 02:26
推 gordon27 :所以說是馬後砲啊 06/26 02:27
推 savemylife :如果Kaman明年去熱火 03梯前六順位的五個就可以在同 06/26 02:27
→ gordon27 :很多選秀在當時看沒那麼糟 但畢竟大部分新秀還是要養 06/26 02:27
→ GianniC :我覺得錯過MJ 很多老闆應該捶心肝吧... 06/26 02:27
→ savemylife :一隊了(JA你就假扮一下甜瓜吧) 06/26 02:27
→ GianniC :看看公牛在MJ身上撈了多少... 06/26 02:27
推 mabirex :2008年.. 06/26 02:28
推 LBJ23 :見證了2~4名 此生無憾 06/26 02:28
→ wilson9221 :Kobe那時不是也有喊話說布是某隊會不簽約,順位往後 06/26 02:29
→ wilson9221 :是可預期的吧 06/26 02:29
推 hihi29 :馬後砲排行榜 根本是結果論 沒有考慮到當時時空背景 06/26 02:30
推 pttfft :Greg Oden真的很可惜 沒受傷得話 魔獸哪來得第一中鋒 06/26 02:30
推 otsuka123 :球團不敢賭高中生是正常 06/26 02:30
推 GianniC :Oden的傷 真的是很難預期... 06/26 02:30
※ 編輯: loed 來自: 61.231.245.31 (06/26 02:31)
推 LBJ23 :====第一名: 2007五支球隊有眼不識Yi Jianlian===== 06/26 02:30
→ savemylife :但簽下Kobe的黃蜂 還不是馬上把他交易出去了 XD 06/26 02:31
→ otsuka123 :除非是身材超好的內線,不然很少前幾順位賭下去 06/26 02:31
→ GianniC :我只能說 阿拓的風水不對 選中鋒要多考慮... 06/26 02:31
推 gordon27 :聽說是選秀前就談好要把Kobe交易到湖人 06/26 02:32
推 savemylife :湖人當年是要清薪資嗎? 不然以Divac交易前後的成績 06/26 02:34
→ savemylife :來看 湖人拿他去換回一個高中生也挺有勇氣的 06/26 02:34
推 LBJ23 :有一說是Jerry West看過Kobe練球就決定要他了 06/26 02:35
推 love3344 :喬丹不是狀元哦 我都不知道= =" 06/26 02:35
→ LBJ23 :但我覺得滿馬後砲 應該只是要準備簽大歐 06/26 02:35
推 siriusorion :原文有說啊 籃網本來要選kobe 但kobe說與其去籃網 06/26 02:36
→ LBJ23 :清薪資 順便把C留給大歐打 06/26 02:36
→ siriusorion :不如回義大利打義大利職籃 06/26 02:36
→ LBJ23 :沒想到換到寶 06/26 02:36
推 GianniC :說真的 Divac可以換的對象相當多 會挑到Kobe 06/26 02:38
推 white75724 :如果給像太陽這種醫龍對選到 阿拓那兩隻搞不好殺爆 06/26 02:38
→ GianniC :只能說Kobe也有吸引人之處 06/26 02:38
→ white75724 :NBA 根本不是選秀的問題 06/26 02:38
推 MontaEllis8 :MLB這種養人更重要的運動 第一輪最後有一半人間蒸發 06/26 02:40
推 hssz :No.4不算錯誤吧,如果Oden沒傷,給我再選我還是選他 06/26 02:41
推 GianniC :一個12.9分 8.6籃板的中鋒 拿來換一個高中生 06/26 02:42
→ gordon27 :所以都是馬後砲啊 很多當時選都還算合理 但結果不好 06/26 02:42
→ GianniC :我覺得湖人應該也是很看中Kobe吧... 06/26 02:42
推 Allenichiro :96年哪叫全部都失誤 06/26 02:43
推 savemylife :其實不識Kobe只是開玩笑 那年前面順位選的也是AI、 06/26 02:45
→ savemylife :Camby、馬大少、RayGun、蛋皮等等 也是一時之選 06/26 02:46
推 jasonkau :湖人那時候就是要清薪資給歐肥 然後剛好Kobe又放話說 06/26 02:46
推 MrHeat :KG還可以扛C扛得有模有樣 健康的Oden不知道多可怕! 06/26 02:47
→ jasonkau :有人攔胡就不會報到 不然當初籃網前十順位就想選了 06/26 02:47
推 savemylife :所以阿拓到底什麼時候要把球場地板挖開打掃一下? 06/26 02:48
推 ohmygod0707 :NO.3前面順位也都可怕的跟鬼一樣...有算選錯? 06/26 02:50
推 savemylife :NO.3的原文不是寫12支球隊沒選Kobe 作者也只是挑那 06/26 02:52
→ savemylife :些最後打得不太理想的球隊來說 不然前有AI、Camby 06/26 02:53
→ savemylife :時 誰真的需要去挑到Kobe啊... 06/26 02:54
推 wade6 :怎麼沒有1989第二順位選了Danny Ferry 06/26 02:54
→ wade6 :雖說Ferry之前在杜克很威 還保有單場58分紀錄 06/26 02:55
推 jasonkau :Kobe那時候還是個高中生 而且蠻瘦的 外線也不太行 06/26 02:55
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